Is The Church Jesus Started Infiltrated by Communists?

Are you aware of the massive wave of external influences infiltrating the Catholic Church? Join me, Doug Billings, as I engage in an enlightening conversation with Michael Hitchborn from the La Panto Institute, unraveling the uncomfortable realities behind the scenes. We investigate claims of certain Catholic organizations promoting practices diametrically opposed to Christian ideals. Together, we shed light on the promise of Jesus that "the gates of Hell shall not prevail against" the Church and the human fallibility within it, the Vatican's role in these challenges, and the importance of standing by our Catholic-Christian values.
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Speaker 1: 0:46

A few days ago, I had the chance to sit down with Michael Hitchborn of the La Plante Institute. Now, the La Plante Institute is a Catholic organization that looks at groups within the Catholic Church and vets them for their consistency with Christian ideals and identity, with Catholic traditions and identity and so forth. You know me I'm a Catholic. I believe in the church. I think that it comes to us from Jesus Christ and that the apostles instituted it, and for 2000 years it's been the church that Jesus intended for his, for his people, the.

Speaker 1: 1:20

The fact that he started it gave the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven to Peter. What you hold on earth will be will be held in in heaven. What you set loose on earth will be set loose in heaven. I give you the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. All of those things Jesus told Peter. The church will prevail. Nothing will take away the priesthood from the church.

Speaker 1: 1:44

Now it's left in the hands of human beings who are not perfect and as a result of that, the church makes mistakes. Now the church with a capital C is in God's hands and it's safely secured there. But on earth, within, within its hierarchy, sometimes the human beings left in charge make mistakes and sometimes they're susceptible to being infiltrated. The church, I think, has been infiltrated by the woke agenda in many ways. I think that Pope Francis had a lot of great high hopes for him initially. I think he's probably in alignment with a lot of the communists, the socialist platforms and politics and policies out there that quite frankly don't align with Christianity. And so Michael Hitchborn, with the Lopanto Institute, looks at Catholic organizations and investigates them to hold them accountable to being true to Catholic Christian tradition. So my interview with him is coming right up, enjoy.

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Speaker 1: 4:02

Hi everybody, welcome to the right side, with Doug Billings coming to you from smack dab in the middle of the fruited plane of the United States. Today, on the program you know we see ourselves so often in the United States and around the world is in a nightmare, a nightmare that has been thrust upon us by what I call the radical left commu socialist party. There are no more Democrats in the elected offices of, especially Washington DC. You've heard me say that to you before. They've blended communism and socialism together and, as it turns out, it doesn't just affect Washington DC, it affects the churches of the world, the churches in America, the church you know. You know me guys. I've talked to you before about being Catholic. You know the Catholic church in which I belong and what I believe in very much. It's also been infiltrated and I have now someone with me who understands this and can explain it and and has actually spent a good portion of his career here to lately investigating it Michael Hitchborn. Michael, welcome to the program.

Speaker 4: 5:00

Michael.

Speaker 1: 5:01

Hitchborn. Michael, you're with the La Planto Institute. First of all, why don't we start there? Just give us the Reader's Digest version of your biography and the organization, the Institute, for which you work.

Speaker 4: 5:13

Sure, I am a husband and father of eight children, I live in Virginia and that's the most important thing anyway. Amen. Everything else I spent. I have a degree in political science and economics from Christendom College. I have a master's in education.

Speaker 4: 5:30

I spent eight years working for American Life League, where I started conducting investigations into organizations that were promoting abortion, contraception and that kind of thing.

Speaker 4: 5:40

And as I was conducting these investigations, what started to come up is that there were charitable organizations and Christian and even Catholic organizations that we were discovering that were also involved in the promotion of abortion and contraception.

Speaker 4: 5:53

And so I started digging a little bit and found an organization called the Catholic Campaign for Human Development was regularly contributing funds to organizations promoting abortion, contraception, homosexuality, marxism. And then I looked into Catholic Relief Services and I found similar problems. Then I looked into Catholic Charities and then I looked into the Vatican's own agency that is the umbrella group for all the international aid and development agencies of all the Catholic dioceses around the world, called Caritas Internationalis, and I found that they were on the executive steering committee of an international communist organization called the World Social Forum. So the scope of my research had gotten so broad and so outside the very narrow mission of American Life League, which really was to focus on pro-life movement in America that we had a conversation and it was decided that really we need to take my investigations to a new level and I can't do that at American Life League because their mission is much more narrow. So I founded the Lopanto Institute based on the investigations I'd been conducting with American Life League, and I've been doing that for the past eight years now.

Speaker 1: 7:09

And so for, as two Catholic guys talking to each other, I, just before we came on the air, we were Introducing ourselves to one another. I told you that back in the day I was in the seminary study to be a priest. I still go to Mass every morning here in my local parish. I believe in the church. I believe that Jesus gifted us this church. He started. It was instituted by the apostles, gave the keys to Peter. Right there it says it clear as day I give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven, and what you hold bound on earth shall be held bound in heaven, and what you set loose on earth Shall be loosed in heaven, etc. Etc. We have the institution of the mass on holy Thursday. This is my body, this is my blood, the new covenant.

Speaker 1: 7:48

I Believe in the church, I believe that there's been a set of keys given to us, and I also believe that, since the church is run, led and managed by human beings, it will never be a perfect institution. It's because humans are not perfect, right we? We, we are not a perfect, people were just not. And so the church, therefore, on earth and it's all of its greatness can't really be perfected because of human beings leading it. We have a duty, though, to call out the leaders within the church who are not Credible, who are not authentic in their roles as Catholic leaders. I, for one, don't believe it's possible, and Father James Altman was the first one to say this. I give him all the credit. You can't be a Catholic and be a Democrat. The two the policies, the platforms and the procedures of the Democratic Party are in direct opposition for almost everything that the Catholic Church stands for, indeed, all of Christianity Stands for. So when I say things like that to a guy like you, michael, what? What comes to mind?

Speaker 4: 8:53

Well, I actually wrote an article back in 2021 the title and it was published in Crisis magazine.

Speaker 4: 8:59

The title is should the cat, should Catholic bishops formally condemn the Democrat Party?

Speaker 4: 9:04

And what I did is I went through piece by piece to show how the Catholic Church formally condemned communism, the the Catholic Church formally condemned Nazism in. In fact, with the enforcement of canon law, made it to the point that anybody who joined the Communist Party was automatically Excommunicated, anybody who participated in the Nazi Party automatically excommunicated. I showed that the Catholic Church had forbidden membership in free masonry and I gave all of the reasons why all of these condemnations were in place and I I then went to the Democrat Party platform and what I showed was, step by step, how each of these things within the Democrat Party platform itself were contrary to the Church's teachings on many levels, and that these teachings, the violation of these teachings, would be on the level of an excommunicable, excommunicable offense, to the degree of heresy, because it's a denial of the Church's teachings in precepts. So the Everything that you said about you can't be a Catholic and a Democrat, 100%, 100%. So that's. That's very much in line with what we do at the Lopanto Institute.

Speaker 1: 10:25

So, with regards to it, because so much comes to mind, I mean, I'm sure, like you, I have a certain circle of friends who are Catholic. Some of these guys I went to seminary with. Some of them are priests currently, some of them are not, some of them are laymen and married people and families, and so forth. One of them in particular comes to mind, my best friend in fact, and he feels certain that Francis has been called by God to Be Pope at this time, that he and he likes Francis, he likes, he views Francis as a person who's welcoming all, all types of people in, and I, I think that's a slippery slope because in my mind I think of wait a minute the LBGTQ kook community, for example, comes to mind.

Speaker 1: 11:06

Transgenderism, humanism. Why does Pope Francis Jorge Bragore, leo and, as our friend, a mutual friend, james Altman would call him father Altman calls him why would he be going to Davos to look into climate change? Why does he go to the new the world Economic Forum meetings? And he is, I believe, a Communist, would you agree? I do, and I'm talking about Pope Francis.

Speaker 4: 11:30

Yeah, yeah, no, I think so, and I'll give you some evidence, solid evidence. We did a video report about two years ago. That was on Pope Francis' fourth world meeting of popular movements, where he invited a bunch of different organizations popular movement organizations into the Vatican. They all held a meeting and he gave an address to them. The Vatican produced a video about this meeting where they highlighted a bunch of these different organizations, one of which was called MST.

Speaker 4: 12:06

Mst is the Brazilian Socialist Party, and they profiled a woman who was a member of MST in the Vatican video. Her name is Saris Hadich and she, you know she was talking about what MST does and how you know what they really. It was a very soft pitch kind of interview. Well, I went to Saris Hadich's social media page to see what she was about and the very first thing that I found was that she participated in something she was part of, a video that was produced by MST for Red Book Day. Red Book Day is a celebration of the day that the Communist Manifesto was written, and there she was, with her husband and her two young sons, reading aloud portions of the Communist Manifesto like it was the Bible, and as she was reading it aloud, the Communist Internationale was playing in the background. Mst had regular photographs of Karl Marx with MST hats on, but that's not the only one.

Speaker 4: 13:11

We found about six different organizations that participated in the world meeting of popular movements that were active communists. This is not hyperbole. Here we're talking people that themselves loud Karl Marx, that they they talked about the need and the importance of communism and how they are working towards a communist state. These are their own words. Pope Francis, in his address, called these organizations a veritable invisible army and he exhorted them to do what they are doing, which is to cause revolution throughout the world. So when, when I say that I strongly suspect Pope Francis of being an actual communist, this is exhibit A. I mean you don't get much more clear than hosting active communists, known communists, who are 100 percent condemned by the church, if so facto, as apostates. 1948 condemnation still stands that those who joined the Communist Party are are excommunicated as apostates. So for him to invite them into the Vatican to hold this meeting and to exhort them to actually continue doing what they're doing. I don't know how you can escape the charge of communism at this point.

Speaker 1: 14:35

Excellent, I agree. So, okay, let's take this a step further. You've done this research, you've looked into it. Let's say that you and I are talking to a group of our friends who like what the church is doing with regards to Pope Francis. Let's just start there. Catholic charities does great work. They say they do all of these things, and I'm not saying that Catholic charities doesn't, but I'm saying that we have to be aware of everything that gets filtered down. How do you begin a conversation of convincing fellow Catholics and other Christians in general that we need to address people like Pope Francis? How do you make a change within an organization such as the Catholic Church, which is so steeped? You know our deposit of faith. We go back to the time of Christ itself. That's where our very roots begin, right there. So we're steeped in this tradition, we're steeped in the hierarchy of the church. How do how do laypeople like us begin to affect a change, amongst our friends first, and then the church itself?

Speaker 4: 15:35

Well, first of all, we have to start with it, with the cessation of the excuses for sinning. It goes back to the very basic tenet of all moral theology within the church, which is that you can never do an evil, no matter how small the evil, for any good, no matter how great the good it is. Never, ever, morally, is it listed to perform any kind of evil for a greater good. So when we look at things like what's going on with Catholic charities we'll just take a quick example Catholic charities what are they doing? They do all this immigration stuff and on the surface, okay, it's great. We want to help immigrants. We want immigrants to, you know, have a place to settle and have a place to work, and that's okay. You might be a well-minded individual to think that that would be something that would be good and in general, there's nothing wrong with that. The problem comes with the very first premise that somebody who comes across the border illegally without any vetting can be resettled in the United States and and have that be a morally listed act. No, you first must obey. Aquinas makes this very clear with regard to immigration that it starts with the law. You have to follow proper law, proper procedure, and there are people who come into this country legally, licently, and they do well. They thrive in this country and I love them for it. But when you come across the border illegally and you want to circumvent the system, there's a reason for that. There's a reason these people do not want to go through the legal process.

Speaker 4: 17:12

The majority of the guys that are coming across the border are military aged men who have an ideological attachment either to sex trafficking, drug trafficking or militancy. These are people who actually believe in revolution and they want to participate and help spark revolution in this country. A lot of them are criminals, but they're not being vetted. There are so many people coming across the border. I've been in contact with people who who know border agents down on the border and they're being told that Catholic Charities is helping people across the border that are known child sex traffickers that are coming across the border with children that they know are not theirs, but they're not asking any questions. They're simply resettling, and why? Because they're getting funding for it. They're getting paid to do this. This isn't charity. By the way, charity starts with doing something for the good of another without any recourse to yourself. That's the definition of charity If you're doing something good for somebody and you're getting paid for it. That's called a job. So Catholic Charities isn't really a charity, it's a job.

Speaker 1: 18:22

Now are they in your assessment and your research? Are they Catholic Charities in this case, with regards to, let's say, immigration of children, sex, child trafficking and so forth? Are you saying that the people within Catholic Charities know that these children are going to be sex trafficked or are they just oblivious to the news that we know that these people are coming across the border? Do they look at it? Are they blinded by their faith, to use an old charity? Are they blinded and they don't see the sex trafficking of children? They just see somebody who they believe, for whatever reason, needs to be fed, clothed and housed.

Speaker 4: 18:58

Well, the truth of the matter is I can't get into somebody's heart and mind, so I don't know what they know or don't know, and I can't tell you the foundation for the decisions that they make. But I can say that there has been enough out there in the media for them not to be able to excuse themselves. They should know better. If they don't know better, it's either a willful ignorance or it's. I don't know how they can be ignorant and innocent at the same time.

Speaker 1: 19:29

It's hard for us because we're awake to this whole situation. It's hard for us to imagine people that aren't but this group of friends that I'm talking about. One of my best friends, I think he's on the cusp of awakening to some of this, but they just don't get it, whether it's COVID, the lockdowns, the danger of the jab, whether it's illegal immigration, whether it's communism in the church, something they just don't. I mean, I'm telling you and my audience has heard me say this before you know, we have the holidays come up, christmas coming up, we just had Thanksgiving. You talk to the people in your family and the people that you know best about the stuff that we know and a lot of them just glaze over. They don't know. They don't know the level and the depth of the things that we've seen.

Speaker 4: 20:08

No, you're absolutely right. I'll give you another case in point. I mean, we talked about Catholic Charities. The Catholic Campaign for Human Development was established in 1969 in the Archdiocese of Chicago. It was started as a national collection by the USCCB in, I think, 1972. The collection was established to finance Saul Alinsky's community organizing groups. That's why it was founded.

Speaker 4: 20:34

We've been investigating. I've personally been investigating CCHD for 15 years. I have, for the last eight years, produced a series of reports for the Lopanto Institute about CCHD funded organizations. The most recent one that we did is an organization called Planting Justice, now the Catholic Campaign for Human Development. The bishops that support it they all regularly tell people pay no attention to the Lopanto Institute. We've looked into their reports. Everything that they're saying is, quote unquote, unfounded that's the phrase they use. They also then reiterate we have an application process. We have a vetting process. That's a thorough process. We're always looking through everything about this organization to make sure that they're not against the church.

Speaker 4: 21:22

Planting Justice in 2013 held a staff meeting. They wrote about this on their own website. It was readily available. We found it right away. On transgender day of remembrance, they erected an altar with a pagan idol on it. Had two pentagrams in this idol or in this altar, and then they recited prayers to demons, including Baphomet, which is best known as the deity associated with Satanism, and they prayed to these deities for these transgender people who had died for the year 2013.

Speaker 4: 22:00

You know, I don't know what kind of vetting was done for this organization, but any organization that engages in active demon worship should be 100 percent permanently banned from Catholic funding. I don't care how much time has passed, I agree, but it wasn't just then. They were doing that in 2013. At the same time, they were promoting transgenderism. They've been promoting transgenderism throughout and are still promoting transgenderism on in our website, on social media. So for the CCHD to say we have a thorough vetting process and we monitor these grants very closely, they're indicting themselves. They're saying they are guilty by turning a blind eye or actually willfully accepting that, yes, they do this and we like it.

Speaker 1: 22:53

This is all I mean. For me, and I'm sure that for the audience, it's fascinating on multiple levels and we've got to take a stand against this. I wish we had more time and, michael, maybe you can come back and we can continue our conversation. I know that we I promised you a couple of segments here and to keep my word, so I can keep you true to your own schedule, I'd like to have you back, but in the meantime, where can people find you If they go to our website, Lepantoorg, they can find our charity reports list.

Speaker 4: 23:22

We have over 130 different organizations that we have profiled, marked them either safe or not safe for Catholic funding. Sign up for our newsletter and just keep a regular watch of our website and see what kind of revelations and reports we put out next.

Speaker 1: 23:37

Wonderful. We'll do that and we'll have that up on the screen during the course of the interview so folks can jot that down. Michael, I can't thank you enough. I appreciate the work that you're doing for the church, for the public and, as I've said before, we're here to build up the kingdom of heaven on earth in any way we can, and we're all in this together to that effect. So I appreciate you very much. Thanks for coming on.

Speaker 4: 23:58

Thanks so much. God bless you and your audience.

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